Old Goat, Hopefully the young ones will run for their lives and the entire pyramid will collapse in to a giant rubble heap.
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Narcissistic Supply
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Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?
by Joepublisher1 ini know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.
) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?
(what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.
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If you don't believe in God where do you get the strength to cope?
by Miss.Fit ini know there are some here that are going through some tough times.
some of you do not believe in god.
some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.
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Jehos re establish my ego about every week without even trying....FOR the record. I believe in god. I accept jesus as my personal savior.... and think he's got a lot of good shit to say....and jeho's can pound sand.
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My first time at a KH - especially to hear the New Light!!!
by The Song Remains The Same ini am not jw, and never intend to be one either.
however, having read a lot about the july 15 wt, i decided to go to the kh today and check out how the new light was going to be delivered.
i thought i would share my observations;.
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I wouldn't listen to an audio recording of a WT meeting even if you threatened to make my ass expolode.
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My first time at a KH - especially to hear the New Light!!!
by The Song Remains The Same ini am not jw, and never intend to be one either.
however, having read a lot about the july 15 wt, i decided to go to the kh today and check out how the new light was going to be delivered.
i thought i would share my observations;.
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Even refering to this steaming pile of dung as the "TRUTH" is ambient abuse. It is denying your reality on the most fundamental level. It is making a mockery of your senses. It is making a mockery of your own heart. It is making a mockery of your own "SENSE OF SELF" on a most fundamental level. It is abusive in a most damaging way.
Shame on you elders for aiding and abetting this type of ambient abuse. Shame on you.
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Nov 2013 KM Question Box. Head coverings on Doorstep bible studies
by BroMac inshould a female publisher wear a headcovering if she is accompanied by a male publisher at a door step bible study?
when a female publisher conducts a regular ,scheduled bible study and a male kingdom publisher is present, she should wear a head covering.(1cor.
11:3-10)the july 15, 2002 issue of the watchtower, page 27, explains: this is a pre arranged session of teaching where the one conducting the study actually presides.
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Those are good Shirley, Thanks for the laugh!
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See Kathleen (Candace's mother) Conti's appearance on CBS Sacramento TV this evening - (Program about Calif. Bill SB131) - JW abused her too
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http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/video/9288079-church-sex-abuse-victims-cheer-bill-heading-to-gov-browns-desk/ reporter's transcript: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/09/09/church-sex-abuse-victims-cheer-bill-heading-to-gov-browns-desk/
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Yeah. Don't F_CK with California!! Put Watchtower and The California Elders on notice!!!
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The ones who participate in CONvention...is it all a load of hypocrisy?
by MissConfused ini am talking about the ones who get special mentions or interviews or part in assemblies and conventions, they are usually stars of the congregation at least as acknowledged by boe.
when i had interacted personally with these people, i did not find them special in any way.
they neither reflected any true love for j, but were quite the very opposite and ambitious to be the best in "the organization", with very little humility.
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Joined: 12 years ago
Location:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/3686
Year of Birth: unknown
Biography: Here is my story:
I'm a 39-yr. old black man, I was raised as a jw from about 5- gave up college scholarships to pioneer for months and I went to bethel served there about 7yrs
I truly enjoyed bethel
Got to learn so much about the org
I hooked up with a Former DO while I was there who was my mentor- he works the Service desk now in Patterson
He trained me how to be an Excellent Society Man as he stated:
"Love the bros. and learn Organization Procedures like the back of your hand"
He would say all the time: "You may not be liked by some but you will ALWAYS BE RIGHT":
Because you can back up everything you say from one of the Society's publications he would say
When I left bethel as a MS I had a collections of Shepherding Material that I had put together and he had given me that was about as good if not as good as the one the avg. CO has in the field
It consisted of 2 large 3 ring binders with copies of all kinds of KM and wt articles dealing with youth, marriage, jobs - almost everything you could encounter as an elder --I had it at my FINGER Tips-
IT WAS ALL indexed so with the flip of a few pages I could REF at anytime --- this was before the Society sent out a "how to Index" sheet
I had it all in this binder: "WHAT THE SOCIETY'S VIEW ON A MATTER WAS"
We used to call that being a "Good Society Man"
I settled in a Congo with 4 former bethelites
I made 5th elder
We ran the Congo like Bethel
Everyone loved it --things were done on time all the time just like we learned at bethel
It was called by some in the circuit as LITTLE BETHEL
We used to have friends from nearby Congo who would come just to see our Service meeting and School
No person was allowed on the platform unless they had rehearsed their part Sunday before an elder- just like they do it at the assemblies
I WAS APPOINTED AT 27 AS AN ELDER-----was on the District program at 29 and started working in the Chairman's office at 30
I was one of the youngest guys up in the "SKYBOX"
While all the friends sat on hard seats in Richmond and the Capital Center in MD for the convention my wife and I was up in the Skyboxes with AC chilling out
While other friends could not get a cool drink of water at their seats
We had a MS who would run down to the food stands and bring us up our food and drink, which we enjoyed thruout the ENTIRE program
My wife never stood in line to use the bathroom we had one in our skybox
As they say at bethel
I was on the FAST TRACK.
FOR MANY on the net I see their exp. and they felt they were cut short or dealt with unkindly by the elders AND FRIENDS, yes they felt that they got DOGGED, yep THE SHAFT
Or they were just the outcast of their Congo
So when they come to the net they are mad as Hell
That was not the case for me-- I was loved and well respected
Almost ALL of our CO's were former bethelites and they always made sure that any former bethelite got parts on the Circuit and District program
Not much was the result of "God gave him that assignment"
MORE LIKE ---"Who you know"
The CO's just like giving parts to all the former bethelites--- as one CO told us
"I know you guys are trained"
So for me I was happy as a lark, fine wife, ok job, well respected elder who was on the fast track
So why in the world would I as one of my bethel buddies put it:
"Bite the hand that feeds you"
Well it all started back in 95 when The Boys in Writing Dropped the Generation doctrine
One night 3 couples all former bethelites we were sitting around talking about it and it's implications on what we teach
You see bethelites have always to some degree questioned the org more than most Local bro do
Then The Writing Dept dropped the Separating of the sheep and Goats
Then They dropped the "Alternative Service" rule-- WHICH USED TO STATE that you could not take any substitute job in place of going to the army - if so you would be DFed)
(I had a very good friend an older Elder when I was in New York who went to Prison for 3yrs instead of working at the hospital due to that rule.
He has had some problems since being in prison, now I have NEVER ASKED HIM AND I NEVER WILL but from everyone I know who should be in the know -
Tells me that this bro was raped repeatedly while he was in prison as a 19 yrs old kid and I will never ask him directly about it.
I stated that to say this:
When they changed the alternative service rule he called me up and he broke down and cried
The Society has tried to present this as "their CONSCIENCES WERE JUST VERY STRICT IS WHY THEY WENT TO PRISON"
WHILE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS that IS A LIE
As he put it ---during the Vietnam War all the young bro were getting draft letters
Him and his mama went to the elders to get advice and they shared with him the Current position in the wt---- where basically it stated if you are Loyal you will not take the alternative job--GO TO JAIL OR BE DFED---POINT BLANK--
So as he put it ---IT was not a conscience matter ---he thought he was being loyal to god
To this very day he has slowed down and step aside as an elder
He still wants to hold on to WT world, but he is a crushed man
So after the last elders school I told my wife I can't take it anymore
The school mainly focused on DO MORE DO MORE, BEAT THE FRIENDS, BEAT THE FRIENDS
And judicial matters is mainly what we talked about.
IF YOU COULD SEE the elders flock book and you look up in the back of the index the word "LOVE"
YOU WILL NOT FIND IT THERE
Just think the most important book elder carries and it does not have one subject line on LOVE
Then I bought me a computer and went up on the Net
I felt that if I have the truth it will stand the test
Well after trying to defend the Boys in the Writing Dept
I realized how little I knew about wt history.
So I stop going into chartrooms and forum --I just found sites where there was no commentary just wt history- and READ AND READ AND READ
I ordered Rays' book and I read both in 10days
Then I cried for 10 more DAYS--smile
ALL THE hopes and dreams I had as a result of the wt begin to crumble right before my eyes
You see I personally know almost every bro Ray mentions in his 2 books
I used to laugh and talk with all of those guys at bethel
I looked up to them as being used by Jah in a mighty way due to the heavy responsibility they had at bethel
We used to call them "Bethel Heavies and we called ourselves BetheLITES"
IT'S AND INSIDE JOKE AT BETHEL, BASED ON WHERE YOU WORK--HOPE YOU GOT IT
cleaning- painting dept , etc = bethelite
Writing dept, Convention office, Executive office = bethel "heavy"
WELL at that point I knew what I had to do - being an elder at the time I knew how the Program works for apostates/anyone questioning the boys in writing.
So I started giving up my assignments one at a time
HVC, Circuit acct overseer, SEC in my hall, STOP Giving public talks outside of my hall and finally I stepped down as an elder
I told the body of elders I was so busy with work that I could not do a good job as an elder and it's not fair to my bookstudy , Congo etc. for me to continue to serve at this time
The night I turned in my Flockbook was the last time I stepped in a Hall-
And we used to get a lot of phone calls from jw we knew
In fact folks all over the country esp former bethelites called when they heard I stepped aside
Then just recently we built a home in another state and moved
A completely new area and we love it
My wife and I are now back in college and we run an IT biz
So we are busy and we are making all new friends and it's hard at times my father-in-law has decided to leave as well as my mom is on her way out
My mother in-law refuses to even talk about it, but is starting to warm up a little----------my dad was never a jw
My mom told me that 10 yrs ago she knew something was wrong and she was afraid to say anything to me because I was an elder: a "SOCIETY MAN"
She said I knew you would tell my elders and they would df me
So she never said anything to me or my wife about her views on the org all those yrs
DAMN I could have gotten out sooner
Smile
So I have a very rounded view of the Org and how it operates that the Avg. jw will never see
And how sad
- At this point for us we have decided to take a break from the bible and religion after over 60yrs of wt world arguing with folks over whether Jesus died on a "Telephone Pole or Light Pole"
We feel we need a break
I didn't mean to ramble on and on
But I felt that sometimes when you put a life exp behind a handle it makes all the difference in the world
For me I had the support of my wife
Due to wt dogma we have no kids
Along with all the former bethelites in my old Congo
3 of them are shooting for the traveling work since they are out of bethel
So I HAVE BEEN THERE-- DONE THAT -BOUGHT THE TEE SHIRT SMILE
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Do You Think It Possible That A Member Of Governing Body Would Ever Commit Suicide Because Of The Pain From Cognitive Dissonance?
by frankiespeakin ini think as things get real tuff for the governing body that the build up of stress from dealing with a corporation founded on lies and manipulation of people that is comming to a head and all the lawsuits and possible criminal prosecution and the day today pressure of having all your decision back fire on you.. the final stage of wishful thinking is the nightmare stage where the whole delusion falls apart.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.
i'm thinking just like hitler killed himself rather than face life anymore, that some on the gb may reach that stage..
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Do You Think It Possible That A Member Of Governing Body Would Ever Commit Suicide Because Of The Pain From Cognitive Dissonance?
by frankiespeakin ini think as things get real tuff for the governing body that the build up of stress from dealing with a corporation founded on lies and manipulation of people that is comming to a head and all the lawsuits and possible criminal prosecution and the day today pressure of having all your decision back fire on you.. the final stage of wishful thinking is the nightmare stage where the whole delusion falls apart.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.
i'm thinking just like hitler killed himself rather than face life anymore, that some on the gb may reach that stage..
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I don't wish bad on them but i have absolute contempt for them....
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Be ready to obey any instructions we may receive
by Narcissistic Supply inthis is the kind of crap that re establishes my ego on a weekly basis....which one of the governing body punks said this???
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This is the kind of crap that re establishes my ego on a weekly basis....Which one of the governing body punks said this????